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The “Clive Lives” Compendium | All Main Evidence Compiled (Character & Theme Analysis) | FFXVI
#ff16 #videoessay #finalfantasy16 #finalfantasyxvi #ffxvi
Discussing the ending of Final Fantasy 16 / XVI and aiming to circumvent (imo) trash writing.
Does Clive die? I doubt it.
I’m not saying this is the ending, I’m saying this would be the best ending on all accounts. To me, at least.
OSTs used:
Main Menu II
Indomitable
My Lady
In Darkness Hope
The Oppressed (Final Fantasy VII)
Simple & Clean (Kingdom Hearts)
my clive bested meme: reddit.com/r/FFXVI/s/nnIDMFqvpR
the old less-good video I made: ua-cam.com/video/YKjdmgZ5qRI/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
0:00 - Intro
0:26 - The Beach
1:24 - Clive's Character Arc
2:39 - Joshua's Fate
3:14 - The Book
5:00 - Metia, Red (Herring) Star
6:02 - Eikonic Niche
6:13 - Torgal's Reactions
6:52 - Jill & The Dawn
8:21 - Song meanings
8:34 - tl;dw for Jill
8:54 - Cid vs Clive
9:31 - How to Escape Fate
9:58 - maaan fucc this open ended a$$ jrpg type sh!t
10:32 - Overaltruism
10:51 - Purposeless Death
11:04 - Not Actual Human Behavior
11:29 - Outro
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Відео

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The Rumbling vs Amenohino Historia kaitei goated fr
BiSH - in case... (Instrumental, Unclean) ~ Godzilla Singular Point Full Opening Theme
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equalizer shenanigans originally written by JxSxK, Kenta Matsukuma
GMK OST - Godzilla Full Theme Mashup
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The motifs of the kaiju in Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack (2001) are placed all throughout the film, so I put together the main versions of them into one extended "full" version. originally composed by the ever-glorious Kow Otani
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selected OST created by Kohta Yamamoto, version used created by Samuel Kim Music track: ua-cam.com/video/IVgUIXwmfBQ/v-deo.html
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no mpi in this one originally composed/written by Hiroyuki Sawano
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turn on CC for subtitles in English. Not at all like my other vids ~.~
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Attack on Titan Chronicle OST - Thanksat REmix
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Attack on Titan Chronicle OST - Before Lights Out REmix ft. Laco
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Attack on Titan OST - Before Lights Out (Full Mix)
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Attack on Titan OST - attackONtitan[WMId]+orig.+Mika Type ver.
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @mikelopez6798
    @mikelopez6798 21 годину тому

    Sounds like a song from TF2

  • @formanga8871
    @formanga8871 7 днів тому

    Bro Clive literally say Joshua is still there at start of the battle.

  • @0Kaylien0
    @0Kaylien0 8 днів тому

    I agree with almost all of this. The only thing that I think is also possible is like a second coming for Joshua. In my head it's possible that his soul/consciousness transferred to Clive when he passed the Phoenix. Joshua's name is derived from Yeshua (Jesus's basically) and there are so many similarities in religion (undying as apostles, resurrection, sacrifice at a young age, but also: a second coming). And before that his spirit returning in the guise of FLAMES. And that sort of gives me the impression that it's possible that Joshua is still alive, his vessel healed and his consciousness perhaps clinging to Clive's (until his body washes up somewhere if not incinerated). Because wouldn't Clive's terms be for his brother to be alive SOMEHOW. And that for me leaves Joshua's death open too. And one could call it far fetched but they're also talking about leaving vessels and returning to them. Even going into hibernation without one. If there was one dominant who could... And in that case they could have written that book together. Joshua was the chronicler of them, even if Harpocrates wanted Clive to pick up the quill. And the Phoenix feather was always a sign to Clive, a symbol of Joshua being alive. The fact that it's there at the end didn't seem random, or a sudden change of meaning of a symbol so significant. But that too could be open for interpretation, but changing the meaning like that is not the best writing imo. It's in essence the twitch or intake of breath people wanted to see. While that vessel is clearly without life. I mean, like you said at the end: everything is still possible depending on the angle. 😆 Except for maybe saying it's clear cut. Also: Dion please be alive too. Even if that's the one character whose death makes sense from a narratological POV. No fall damage ftw.

  • @GuestMega2
    @GuestMega2 9 днів тому

    This went hard asf while playing kaiju online on roblox

  • @Dgbh0099
    @Dgbh0099 11 днів тому

    14:19 this should have been canon 😂

  • @sugondeeznuts3857
    @sugondeeznuts3857 14 днів тому

    Lol

  • @dannypistilli4864
    @dannypistilli4864 14 днів тому

    I know people bash the side quests but there are a lot of subtle hints that Clive is the one who lives. The side quest where he gains Tomes quill pen and writing a story, which you mentioned as well but it made sense to me

  • @tylermurray4732
    @tylermurray4732 15 днів тому

    If you think Clive should have lived at the end of FFXVI then you didn’t understand the story or what Clive stood for.

  • @TheVeynom
    @TheVeynom 19 днів тому

    you're a fool if you think FF16 story is over, do you guys played FF-X ?

  • @hiwatari-0162
    @hiwatari-0162 21 день тому

    3:37 cute asf

  • @kaijin713
    @kaijin713 24 дні тому

    I feel like Clive dying would just be way too straight forward and surface level. They put so much attention into foreshadowing and details Clive dying would just be such a slap in the face to the rest of the game. Jill’s dialogue about dawn, Harpocrates and the book, Clive’s narration. Too many details that coincide with Clive surviving.

  • @PointlessPeachesII
    @PointlessPeachesII 27 днів тому

    You spoke to my soul on this one. It simply doesn't make sense for him to die.

  • @ediblelipscrubs9466
    @ediblelipscrubs9466 29 днів тому

    12:59 AWWWWWWTHEYRE ALL MUFFLED

  • @barnacle._.scum21
    @barnacle._.scum21 29 днів тому

    W theory Clive The Goat lives 🔥

  • @kayochao
    @kayochao Місяць тому

    I DONT SEE THE FUCKING BOAT EITHER THANK YOU LMAOO

  • @joethealternativegamer3935
    @joethealternativegamer3935 Місяць тому

    I recently beat the game myself and I was looking at some videos on it! I thought some things were up! Def alive! End of your video is hilarious too! You deserve more subs!

  • @KitsuneDemon100
    @KitsuneDemon100 Місяць тому

    I think exactly the same. I'm convinced that the curse disappeared along with magic. Clive lost his left hand/arm, but he's still alive.

  • @parojulian
    @parojulian Місяць тому

    Stop the cap, Clive is dead, you can’t survive the curse, played start to finish

    • @parojulian
      @parojulian Місяць тому

      Next dlc you play as Jill

  • @AlexTekle
    @AlexTekle Місяць тому

    at first i was a believer of joshua surviving, i do like the thematic significance of clive naming him the author, thus immortalizing him forevermore

  • @Scorchlette
    @Scorchlette Місяць тому

    Something I'd like to point out. The Pheonix *cannot* revive the dead. There is NO chance of Joshua coming back to life from whatever Clive did.

  • @OracleGrouse
    @OracleGrouse 2 місяці тому

    Also more details: 1. A mad man on Reddit calculated where Clive washed up using the moon's angle. And considering how that's a detail the devs put attention to in 14... Clive is right next to Northreach. Southern shore more precisely. 2. The narrator being the author is a plot device Maehiro has used before in XIV: Heavensward. Also according to Koji Fox in a recent interview, Maehiro was VERY insistent about the Final Fantasy line and my gut tells me it's not just about the easter egg. 3. YoshiP does have a history of calling out wrong interpretations when he's pestered about it ("bloody hell guys he's dead!"-about Endwalker) he didn't for Clive. 4. Recent DLC also reinforced the sea=death image. Bearers return their ash to the sea...and guess who's the only one who crawled out of it? And omg those saying him living is the "Disney ending". Bloody hell, I went through many quests with everyone talking about how the world will be shitty for quite a while and they may not see the fruits of their labor in their lifetime. How's that a Disney ending?

  • @merbearlorelei
    @merbearlorelei 2 місяці тому

    One more to confirm that Joshua died; It's a solid storytelling trope that if a character coughs even once, it means they're sick and going to die lol

  • @Darkozt358
    @Darkozt358 2 місяці тому

    GMK movie is my favourite Godzilla film and will always be the Most Underrated Godzilla movie

  • @gurkenrick2351
    @gurkenrick2351 2 місяці тому

    10:38 damn Marco broke the bro-code and revealed to Annie that Bertolt loves her

  • @yfw123
    @yfw123 2 місяці тому

    Kind of frustrating that developer still refuse to add content to the ending or define it and opted to write up open end in such a confusing way. I hate it for over a decade ago, Tales of the Abyss ended up in a similar way, not disclosing whether the returning character is Luke or Asche and here we get FF16 ending undefined. Hope the developers won't do that again in upcoming JRPG games.

  • @janelbbuck
    @janelbbuck 2 місяці тому

    Tbh I really didn’t like the end. It’s probably cause I read and watched so much media with the similar open ended bull, media like that was my childhood. And I always hated it cause it felt like a cop out. “Oh the fans can think of their own possible ending” NO if I wanted to do that I’d write fan fiction. Give me the canon and all of it, I am too greedy for open ends. But after having such a blast with the entire story for it to end like that, made me immediately never want to replay. 💀

    • @kaijin713
      @kaijin713 24 дні тому

      Lmao ikr. Like if they’re going to give us an open ended ending like that, we better at least get a fucking sequel, or something that gives people closure.

  • @sovietknon8583
    @sovietknon8583 2 місяці тому

    Bataille decisive + 2EM13_EM20_Alterne 5:56

  • @SassyGhost13
    @SassyGhost13 2 місяці тому

    Ideally, Joshua and Clive both lived. Joshua didn’t give Clive all his power, just some. Being the Phoenix, 🐦‍🔥well, you get the point. What’s likely is that Clive died and Joshua lived. Clive is Joshua’s sworn protector and that little montage at the end further leans in on that. I feel like what Clive did at the end was give Joshua back a lot of his 🐦‍🔥powers so he would be able to come back from all the destruction. The relationship between Joshua and Clive is a lot more important to the story than Clive and Jill. Clive failed to protect Joshua the first time, but he saved his brother and kept his promise to him in the end.

  • @nikolaypetrov9789
    @nikolaypetrov9789 2 місяці тому

    great work

  • @welfare_burrito
    @welfare_burrito 3 місяці тому

    cope

  • @DarkZilla2000
    @DarkZilla2000 3 місяці тому

    that first shot with the first song gave me chills down my spine...

  • @DoomedRedbull
    @DoomedRedbull 3 місяці тому

    I actually love how it kept Vegetas character arc in Z. The fact he goes out of his way to say hes the strongest fight on Earth "at the moment" during the Baby Arc speaks volumes to how much he respects Goku.

    • @Aziruf
      @Aziruf 2 місяці тому

      what

  • @windschlussel
    @windschlussel 3 місяці тому

    Advent Children parts were slower..

  • @zoltire6478
    @zoltire6478 3 місяці тому

    this game was released at a bad state but it's genuinely good now. only problem is it's STILL not finished and will never be 😒

  • @vicentemercado9537
    @vicentemercado9537 3 місяці тому

    Sir, we are getting a sidnature here, this thing's massive! Whats The Blood Type? Its not blue, This isnt an angel! Then What On Gods Green earth Is That? Its Ghidorah!

  • @yosos2
    @yosos2 3 місяці тому

    I thought that the phoenix feathe would become phoenix down and revive joshua, maybe it would work on clive

  • @AJadedLizard
    @AJadedLizard 3 місяці тому

    This is one of the cleanest arrangements I've heard of these pieces. Very well done.

  • @JakeRyanBooth
    @JakeRyanBooth 3 місяці тому

    We’ve still got an entire other DLC expansion coming too. I wonder when it will take place in the game. Will it be a post ending DLC or pre ending?

  • @JakeRyanBooth
    @JakeRyanBooth 3 місяці тому

    Clive living wouldn’t have been a happy ending either. His victory did not come without loss. But at the very least him being by Jill’s side in the end would’ve been a better bittersweet ending. Joshua dying was painful.

  • @hornoxthekingslayer8100
    @hornoxthekingslayer8100 3 місяці тому

    For some reason this gives off Tubular Bell Vibes, just the base being through the whole thing as the rest evolves around it. It might be one the best pieces of music I've heard.

  • @blackberrywinter4084
    @blackberrywinter4084 3 місяці тому

    They are so cute! ❤

  • @ShanMichaelEscasio
    @ShanMichaelEscasio 3 місяці тому

    To all my fellow Subjects of Ymir, I need your help. I am a new fan of AOT and finished the entire series 6 days ago. Last night, I watched the Chronicles and there'sa particular OST i really liked and wanna know the title. I cant find it here on youtube nor apotify even scanning all AOT soundtracks. It plays on the scene moments after Eren got eaten by a Titan and Mikasa was devastated. I uploaded that scene on my channel for reference. Any help from you guys will be appreciated. I just want to know the title so i can search. ua-cam.com/video/9DzAPEqFwkA/v-deo.htmlsi=Pueq0NzN7pZaPzk0

  • @ShanMichaelEscasio
    @ShanMichaelEscasio 3 місяці тому

    To all my fellow Subjects of Ymir, I need your help. I am a new fan of AOT and finished the entire series 6 days ago. Last night, I watched the Chronicles and there'sa particular OST i really liked and wanna know the title. I cant find it here on youtube nor apotify even scanning all AOT soundtracks. It plays on the scene moments after Eren got eaten by a Titan and Mikasa was devastated. I uploaded that scene on my channel for reference. Any help from you guys will be appreciated. I just want to know the title so i can search. ua-cam.com/video/9DzAPEqFwkA/v-deo.htmlsi=Pueq0NzN7pZaPzk0

  • @dantegallardo1974
    @dantegallardo1974 3 місяці тому

    thank you

  • @SamBerbatov2010
    @SamBerbatov2010 3 місяці тому

    Im hoping the open ending was done on purpose to gauge the reaction into how much people cared. Now they’re making the 2nd DLC, my hope is it changes the ending to something I like :) (if you like the ending, straight up go F yourselves 😅)

  • @user-ts1fo2vx6m
    @user-ts1fo2vx6m 4 місяці тому

    What's name of the intro song

  • @beny9134
    @beny9134 4 місяці тому

    That Godzilla is a Beast. My all time Favorit.

  • @CallOfDutyGodzilla
    @CallOfDutyGodzilla 4 місяці тому

    HELP THE BEAT DROP AT 1:23 GOES SO FUCKING HARD

  • @NewBootScoobin
    @NewBootScoobin 4 місяці тому

    Clive is dead bro.

  • @user-eq1we2qj4s
    @user-eq1we2qj4s 4 місяці тому

    Giant reptile devil rises to his theme